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Postage stamp refs[edit]

A new editor, Kaushwiki, added a section in July about commemorative stamps. The user then posted bare urls directly into the Refs section of the article. I have removed these and placed them here, so that they can eventually be properly included.

It appears from their talk page that this editor has made similar edits to many other articles in their brief career here, and retired from Wikipedia after their behaviour was raised at ANI.

279. colnect.com/en/stamps/stamp/178779-Karl_Marx_1818-1883_philosopher-Karl_Marx-Hungary. Catalog codes: Michel HU 1305C, Stamp Number HU 1042, Yvert et Tellier HU 1079A. 280. colnect.com/en/stamps/stamp/176915-Karl_Marx_1818-1893_politician-Personalities-Hungary. Catalog codes: Michel HU 2068A, Stamp Number HU 1583, Yvert et Tellier HU 1680, AFA number HU 2024. 281. colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/8663-India/item_name/karl+Marx. Catalog codes: Mi:IN 950, Sn:IN 1017, Yt:IN 761, Sg:IN 1084. 282. colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/2650-Russia/year/2018/item_name/karl+Marx. Catalog codes: Col:RU 2018-18 and Col:RU 2018-18KB (Mini-sheet). 283. colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/8150-Vietnam/year/1983/item_name/karl+Marx. Catalog codes: Mi:VN 1367, Sn:VN 1317, Yt:VN 462 and Catalog codes: Mi:VN 1368, Yt:VN 463. 284. colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/2652-Soviet_Union_USSR/year/1933/item_name/karl+Marx. Catalog codes: Mi:SU 424X-26X, Sn:SU 480-82, Yt:SU 473-75, Sg:SU 603-05, AFA:SU 431-33.

House in Trier, Germany, where Marx spent his childhood and youth[edit]

Heinrich Marx, the father of Karl Marx, bought the small mansard roof building in Trier´s Simeonstrasse in 1819 [1] when Karl was only one year old. The later socialist grew up here with his parents and five siblings and moved out aged 17 after his graduation from secondary school (Gymnasium). Yet as a grown up man, he returned to Trier several times to visit his relatives. Compared to today, little has changed in the historical city center of Trier: The main characteristics of the old town around the market place have been preserved and looked more or less the same back in the days when Karl Marx lived there [2]. In particular the neighbourhood of the house to the Trier's most famous landmark, the Roman city gate Porta Nigra, is still impressive. In most parts unchanged to this day, it is likely that Karl Marx took the very same route to school every day that tourists can walk today [3]. The house in Simeonstraße had a lasting impact on Karl Marx, especially since he had been educated here in home schooling until the age of 12 [4]. As an adult, Karl Marx returned to live with his family in this house during his visits several times. For example in 1841 after his doctoral studies in Berlin, Marx travelled back to Trier. The main reason for his return home was to be close to his long-term fiancée Jenny von Westphalen. Also in the following year, 1842, Karl Marx spent some months in the house in Simeonstraße 8 (then Simeongasse 1040) in order to take care of family matters [5].

Location of the house The former home of Karl Marx in Simeonstraße 8 (then Simeongasse 1040) looks rather unremarkable at the beginning of Trier's shopping promenade close to the famous Porta Nigra. Only a few minutes walk leads visitors to the bronze statue of Karl Marx by Wu Weishan – a present from the People's Republic of China to Trier.

References

  1. ^ Longuet, Robert-Jean (1977). Karl Marx mein Urgroßvater. Berlin. p. 16.
  2. ^ Neffe, Jürgen (2017). Marx der Unvollendete. Bertelsmann. p. 41. ISBN ISBN-13 978-3570102732. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help)
  3. ^ Monz, Heinz (1964). Trier. p. 164. {{cite book}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  4. ^ Baumeister, Jens (2017). Wie der Wein Karl Marx zum Kommunisten machte: Ein Kommunist als Streiter für die Moselwinzer. Trier. p. 32. ISBN ISBN 978-3000564710. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help)
  5. ^ Longuet, Robert-Jean (1977). Karl Marx mein Urgroßvater. Berlin. p. 52.

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2022[edit]

I request that the fact the Karl Marx and Engles were both racist should be added. I have provided a link to the personal letters between Marx and Engles where you can clearly see they use of racist words. Here is a quote from Marx "The Jewish nigger Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation."

https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1862/letters/62_07_30a.htm 2A02:C7E:14AB:5F00:DD3B:CA41:BFF:2E95 (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, like more or less all of his contemporaries, Marx used racist language - shocking by the standards of our time. He lived in a place and time when this was the norm. That is indisputable. What Wikipedia needs though is discussion of this in secondary reliable sources, placing it in context, rather than primary-sourced quotations. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:00, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
By the way, Marx had a Jewish background and was nicknamed "Moor".--Jack Upland (talk) 19:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please remove FRSA postnominal[edit]

The FRSA postnominal should be removed from the lede and infobox. Marx could not have had this postnominal in his lifetime as the organisation only got the Royal title in 1908. (Royal_Society_of_Arts). Moreover, FRSA is not an honour but represents a membership that is open to a wide range of people by paying a subscription. Related discussion here. Historylikeyou (talk) 13:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree. Also, he is not known for being a member of the society, and it gives a false impression of who he was (e.g., that he was a Royalist).--Jack Upland (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Removed.--Jack Upland (talk) 18:15, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I undid this removal of the FRSA postnominal. Consensus was not achieved at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography--SouthernNights (talk) 12:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"Influenced" parameter[edit]

Isn't the "influenced" parameter in the Infobox an oversimplification? Not all the people he influenced identify themselves as Marxists. Perhaps a description like in Aristotle is more accurate 7szz (talk) 06:21, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]